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Tropical Depression Three forms
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 15:42 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010 +1
Tropical Depression Three has formed over the Bahama Islands, and appears poised to become Tropical Storm Bonnie later today. Satellite images of TD 3 show a modest area of heavy thunderstorms that have slowly increased in intensity and areal coverage this morning. The surface circulation center is exposed to view, thanks to strong upper-level winds out of the southwest that are creating about 20 knots of wind shear. This wind shear is due to the counter-clockwise circulation of air around a large upper-level low pressure system over Florida that is moving west at about the same speed TD 3 is. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air is associated with the upper-level low pressure system, and this dry air is hindering development of TD 3. The storm is attempting to wrap a curved band of clouds around its center, on its west side. If TD 3 is able to do this, the center will be protected from shear and dry air, and more significant strengthening can occur. Surface observations in the Bahamas and several nearby ships have shown top winds in TD 3 of up to 35 mph, so the storm is close to the 40 mph winds needed to be classified as a tropical storm.


Figure 1. Water vapor satellite image showing dry air (brown colors) associated with the upper-level low over Florida. Image credit: NOAA/NESDIS.

Track Forecast for TD 3
The storm is in a fairly straightforward steering current environment, and TD 3 should progress steadily to the west to west-northwest through Saturday. This will bring the storm ashore over the Florida Keys or South Florida on Friday, and into the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday. The latest set of model runs from 2am EDT (6Z) had the advantage of having data from a flight of the NOAA jet last night, so we have higher confidence than usual in the track of TD 3 over the next two days. The location of TD 3's final landfall along the Gulf of Mexico coast has the usual uncertainties for 3 - 4 days, with the various models calling for landfall somewhere between the upper Texas coast and the Florida Panhandle coast. Given the uncertainties, the move halt operations in the Deepwater Horizon blowout recovery effort are probably wise.

Intensity Forecast for TD 3
The primary detriment to development of TD 3 for the next three days will be the presence of the large upper-level low to its west. As long as this low remains in its present location, relative to TD 3, it will bring wind shear of about 20 knots and dry air into the storm. This will limit the intensification potential of TD 3 to no more than about 10 - 15 mph per day. If the upper-level low slow down a bit, relative to TD 3, more shear will affect the storm, potentially weakening it. Conversely, if the upper-level low picks up speed and pulls away from TD 3, the storm may be able to intensify at a faster rate. None of the computer models is calling for that to happen, but it would not take much of an additional separation between TD 3 and the upper level low to substantially reduce shear and allow TD 3 to intensify into a hurricane on Saturday. I put the odds of TD 3 making it to hurricane strength in the Gulf of Mexico at 20%.

98L
An area of disturbed weather (98L) has developed in the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche. This system is under a low amount of shear, 5 - 10 knots, and may barely have enough time to organize into a tropical depression before making landfall along the Mexican coast a few hundred miles south of the Texas border on Friday.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
Map of oil spill location from the NOAA Satellite Services Division
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

Next update
I'll have an update between 3 - 4 pm, when the Hurricane Hunters will be in the storm. I'll also speculate on the possible impact the storm will have on the oil spill region.

Jeff Masters
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1551. MiamiHurricanes09 20:03 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting galvestonhurricane:


A wobble northwestward does not mean anything. Plus, he is only thirteen.
Wobble? It's north of the cone and has been moving NW for a a couple hours. And of course when you know you are wrong you resort to my age. Typical.
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1552. Patrap 20:04 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
NEXRAD Radar
Miami, Velocity Azimuth Display Wind Profile Range 124 NMI

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1553. RitaEvac 20:04 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Pat is in fer some Cajun weather coming dat way.... gonna be on dirty side of ol Bonnie
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1554. ElConando 20:04 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting extreme236:
I'd like to see a recon pass thru the NE quad where the strongest winds are. If were going to have a TS at 5 that's where they will find it.


Didn't they already do?
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1555. tropicfreak 20:04 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



are the hh in 98L too?


Maybe.
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1556. rossclick 20:04 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
guy on ABC25 in west palm just said unlike to be upgraded anytime soon
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1557. NOSinger 20:04 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Hurrkat....if I recall....yesterday you said 97l was going to be dead today....changed your mind a little bit??
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1559. galvestonhurricane 20:04 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

just ingore him he is a really bad forecast hehe


btwntx: do you not know how to spell ignore?
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1561. Clearwater1 20:05 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting JamesSA:
But when a hurricane is moving in a straight line XTRP is ALWAYS right. ;-)
Exactly lol. and at the last moment, just before landfall the "xtap" is always right 100% of the time. But at that moment, you can just look out the window and say holy cr_p
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1562. StonedCrab 20:05 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting hurricane23:
No TS from iam finding on the recon obs...

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL032010
A. 22/19:20:30Z
B. 22 deg 25 min N
075 deg 07 min W
C. NA
D. 29 kt
E. 296 deg 22 nm
F. 024 deg 33 kt
G. 297 deg 24 nm
H. EXTRAP 1006 mb
I. 24 C / 183 m
J. 25 C / 217 m
K. 21 C / NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345 / 01
O. 0.03 / 0 nm
P. AF306 02BBA INVEST OB 14
MAX FL WIND 33 KT NW QUAD 19:12:20Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM BELOW 1500 FT



Agreed, I dont see any TS winds.
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1563. mcluvincane 20:05 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting hurrkat05:
LOL YOU NOTICE WHAT THR NHC IS SAYING THE tropical depression WILL GO THROUGH THE FLORIDA STRAITS FRIDAY...KEY NAME HERE IS TROPICAL DEPRESSION..


Ummmm. Look at the forecast track by the nhc. Clearly a TS. .duhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
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1564. tropicfreak 20:05 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting RitaEvac:
Pat is in fer some Cajun weather coming dat way.... gonna be on dirty side of ol Bonnie


Are you speeking Patish. LOL
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1565. chrisdscane 20:05 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Wobble? It's north of the cone and has been moving NW for a a couple hours. And of course when you know you are wrong you resort to my age. Typical.


u know more than half the ppl here
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1566. StormHype 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting cchsweatherman:


I am still sticking with my forecast from earlier with a moderate tropical storm making landfall in Southern Miami Dade county tomorrow afternoon.


That goes against the NHC and models in both track and intensity, but then again, any kid with a photo of the NHC for their avatar must know what they are doing. I'm just a monkey.
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1567. 1fromnovasscotia 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
surface pressure is dropping consistently today
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1568. Edisonian 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Patrap can you explain how to read the graphic you just posted?
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1569. RiverSteve 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


He's a troll, a moron and a disgrace to himself. Hopefully, people just start ignoring him.
We members of the Lurking Morons Appreciating the Observations better known as the LMAO are hereby offended by that remark
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1570. Hurricanes101 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:

You have to look at surface not flight l... ahh forget it


they were surface, I know what to look for
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1571. BahaHurican 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Hey! they just dropped a 'sonde in the pond in the front of my Grandmother's house....

LOL

Well not quite - it's Exuma Sound. Guess they are checking out the further convection?

And is it me or are there 3 different aircraft currently flying this storm?
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1572. TankHead93 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
This little bugger may be a big problem for someone down the road. It is VERY persistent... and systems that are persistent in the face of unfavorable conditions (which this one WAS in) become a problem when faced with favorable conditions... JMHO ;)
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1573. MiamiHurricanes09 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
NEW BLOG!
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1574. tropicfreak 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
NEW BLOG
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1575. chrisdscane 20:06 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting Patrap:
NEXRAD Radar
Miami, Velocity Azimuth Display Wind Profile Range 124 NMI





plz plz link the site
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1576. vortextrance 20:07 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
I think a slight shift to the north will come next advisory. As for the development I don't think she is doing is great as some do. Shear has relaxed, and even though their is less dry air to the west it is still causing problems. If the current trends continue then tonight might give her a better chance to get her act together. Hopefully she/it will keep choking on the dry air.
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1578. Hurricanes12 20:07 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Bill Read, director of the National Hurricane Center said that they do expect it to become a weak tropical storm within the next 24 hours and that the NHC does not expect the storm to intensify rapidly. Also, Bill said that the storm itself looks better organized.
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1579. louisianaboy444 20:07 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


Miami, I wouldn't respond to some of these fools. Obvisouly this is coming to SE FL and people want to argue that because they want it to come to where they live in TX or LA. LA after FL looks like the next landfall.


I give up! lol
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1580. TropicalNonsense 20:07 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting galvestonhurricane:
Miami Hurricane: td 3 is not going to hit Miami. You need to stop wishcasting; we all know that you want a tropical storm or hurricane.


haha. that is also where the hurricane center is.
Bonnie is unlikely to affect Miami by virtually
everyone's forecast except Miami's. LOL
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1581. HurricaneFCast 20:07 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
NHC's coordinates at 2pm were 22.3N, 74.9W...
Latest coordinates from recon: 22.4N, 75.1W... 2 tenths west, 1 tenth north.. The steering has been and will continue to be a straightforward WNW motion... Not a single hurricane expert has every wavered from that forecast.. What is happening on this blog is called an extremely overactive imagination driven by a subconscious desire for a landfall closer to home.. That's all.. To deny it is dishonest.
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1582. MrJoeBlow 20:08 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting btwntx08:

according to this yep


Now look at that it got the XTRP model all over it and it got Sarasota on it for certain. Ya'll was pulling my leg!
1583. xcool 20:08 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
new blog
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1584. ElConando 20:08 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Remember so you know google earth does not show surface winds only flight level.
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1585. shfr173 20:09 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
1st time weather geek whats new with TD3?
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1586. TropicalNonsense 20:09 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Wobble? It's north of the cone and has been moving NW for a a couple hours. And of course when you know you are wrong you resort to my age. Typical.


Not if you believe Gator23! [Laughs]
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1587. StormHype 20:09 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting TropicalNonsense:


haha. that is also where the hurricane center is.
Bonnie is unlikely to affect Miami by virtually
everyone's forecast except Miami's. LOL


The miami 'me' casters must be latching on the Clipper 5 model run. lol why do they even plot that?
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1588. StadiumEffect 20:10 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
In terms of structure, the depression seems like it is better organized. However, heavy thunderstroms are still not properly co-located with the center of circulation and the system is having trouble developing bands on its western side due to shear. The center looks like it may become exposed again if convection is not able to persist over it.
1589. rmbjoe1954 20:11 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting StormHype:


That goes against the NHC and models in both track and intensity, but then again, any kid with a photo of the NHC for their avatar must know what they are doing. I'm just a monkey.


Great. A Monkey-caster!
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1590. PensacolaDoug 20:11 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Yall do know there is a NEW BLOG up?
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1592. caribbeantracker01 20:13 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
based on infared sat i believe the center has just improved with a small burst of convection notice the small convection and not the othe blob i think bonnie will be born soon and in my opinion it supports a steady north western movemement but notice the ull rapid sw movement
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1593. wayfaringstranger 20:13 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:
NHC's coordinates at 2pm were 22.3N, 74.9W...
Latest coordinates from recon: 22.4N, 75.1W... 2 tenths west, 1 tenth north.. The steering has been and will continue to be a straightforward WNW motion... Not a single hurricane expert has every wavered from that forecast.. What is happening on this blog is called an extremely overactive imagination driven by a subconscious desire for a landfall closer to home.. That's all.. To deny it is dishonest.


Shrink casting?
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1594. StonedCrab 20:13 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting cchsweatherman:


I am still sticking with my forecast from earlier with a moderate tropical storm making landfall in Southern Miami Dade county tomorrow afternoon.


Good call! Let's Party! Two people agree on the blog!
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1595. leelee75k 20:14 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Can't you guys just admit at this time none of you are certain and you could either be right or wrong?

TD3/Bonnie center could go through the Keys but the blob of convection could affect Miami/Broward and if you are paying attention to official sources, ie the flood watch and tropical storm warning, then that is what is to be expected.

agree to disagree and move on, please!
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1597. TampaTom 20:16 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting StormHype:


That goes against the NHC and models in both track and intensity, but then again, any kid with a photo of the NHC for their avatar must know what they are doing. I'm just a monkey.


Wait a minute.. I thought I had the monkey avatar...
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1598. bohonkweatherman 20:17 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting wayfaringstranger:


Shrink casting?
No the dude is stating the way it is.
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1599. TropicalNonsense 20:19 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


Miami, I wouldn't respond to some of these fools. Obvisouly this is coming to SE FL and people want to argue that because they want it to come to where they live in TX or LA. LA after FL looks like the next landfall.


you have to be kidding. you dont really believe this i hope.
[TD/Bonnie] will not impact Florida other than the key's Jeff.

i know you were just joking but dont scare the Florida
folks they cant take it after the 2004 season!

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1600. TexasGulf 20:20 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
I was just North of Houston for T.S. Allison. The flooding was due to the tropical storm / depression circling back over the Houston area twice during a 4-day period, in some areas raining over 25" during that time.

You can never discount a storm based on category or wind speed. Each has the potential to spawn tornadoes, cause flash flooding, cause power outages or even loss of life & property damage. While most tropical storms or depressions are relatively mild... some can pack a serious punch.

TD3 (Bonnie) may be just such a storm. It may not seriously intensify beyond TS strength... but it could cause serious environmental damage due to the oil spill in it's path. Based on wind and wave patterns and how far it moves the oil on-shore, particularly into the Louisiana coastal marsh land, this small TS could cause environmental devastation on a large scale.

Not everything about a storm's destructive power is about houses, property or lives. In this case, the oil spill being an extenuating factor, it could be an ecological disaster for the western Louisiana coastal marsh land, which so far has been relatively untouched by the oil.
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1601. Clearwater1 20:23 GMT dnia 22-lipiec-2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Wobble? It's north of the cone and has been moving NW for a a couple hours. And of course when you know you are wrong you resort to my age. Typical.
You could be right. If is heading at an angle, say n w from the offical track, then the longer it moves in that direction the greater the spread from the nhc track.
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